Taildraggers.com | john butler | Group Activity https://taildraggers.com/members/johnbutler/activity/groups/ Public group activity feed of which john butler is a member. Sun, 27 Sep 2026 21:07:47 -0400 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 3069802b8370f4dad7371d75aa784f52 Tim Farwell posted an update in the group Tailwheel Pilots Association https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7584/ Sun, 27 Sep 2026 19:37:29 -0400
Had fun this weekend with airplanes-got out the Ag Cats and Stinson 108s. A beautiful Saturday to play in the skies!!
]]> 0 58a587b461d98646bdc730c870be5a83 john butler joined the group Tailwheel Pilots Association https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7582/ Sun, 27 Sep 2026 17:51:16 -0400 0 9a4dbbb4c90860629366096ffb2c9c70 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 1975 Cessna A185F. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7580/ Sun, 27 Sep 2026 16:03:43 -0400 1975 Cessna A185F with 7,653 hours total time, powered by a Continental IO-520-D with 431 hours SMOH and a Hartzell three-blade propeller with 431 hours since overhaul. Equipped with long-range fuel, Horton STOL kit, Wing-X extensions, Garmin GNC 250XL, AV-30C, ADS-B Out, and a 1,771-lb useful load in its current wheel configuration. The aircraft…Read more

]]> 0 6fba73520d5e99f702202d8b069e4aae Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 1941 Boeing/Stearman A75N1. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7579/ Sun, 27 Sep 2026 15:56:07 -0400 1941 Boeing/Stearman A75N1 extensively restored and converted to a 450 HP Pratt & Whitney R-985 configuration. The R-985-14B has fewer than 50 hours SMOH by Tulsa, and the Hamilton Standard 2D30 propeller was overhauled during the 2026 annual inspection. This Standard Category Stearman is equipped with a Serv-Aero engine mount, electric start,…Read more

]]> 0 549a1eb75b0038176d164ede73198379 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 1945 Piper J-3 Cub. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7578/ Sun, 27 Sep 2026 14:38:57 -0400 1945 Piper J-3 Cub with 2,835 hours total time, upgraded with an 85 HP Continental C85-12 and a metal propeller. The aircraft underwent an extensive fabric-off refurbishment in 2013 using Stewart Systems covering and has flown approximately 220 hours since that work. It is a traditional NORDO, hand-prop Cub with no electrical system, and the…Read more

]]> 0 7d30f4aa5d9ae7430b97e34f5b49d614 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 1946 Aeronca 7AC Champion. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7577/ Sun, 27 Sep 2026 14:32:27 -0400 1946 Aeronca 7AC Champion with 5,068 hours total time and a 65 HP Continental engine with 798.2 hours since major overhaul. The seller reports a fresh annual and reliable starting and operation. This is a two-seat classic Champ with limited additional equipment and maintenance information provided in the listing. • Registration: N1844E • Serial…Read more

]]> 0 d2e96ae4d54fb6cb9ac11ff9cfcd1a59 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 2015 Great Lakes 2T-1A-2. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7576/ Sun, 27 Sep 2026 14:26:27 -0400 2015 Great Lakes 2T-1A-2 with just under 200 hours total time and only 27 hours on a factory-new Lycoming AEIO-360-B1G6 engine and MT composite propeller. The two-place aerobatic biplane is equipped with a Garmin Aera 660, dual Trig COM radios, Trig transponder, and JPI EDM-930 engine monitor. Seller reports two owners since new, complete logs,…Read more

]]> 0 5c1902cd7b55627486486a094171bce6 Tmshaffer joined the group Tailwheel Pilots Association https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7574/ Sun, 27 Sep 2026 09:35:43 -0400 0 892fb034602370e726bb1e94d2f5abad Phil posted a new Ad Kitfox S7. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7572/ Sun, 27 Sep 2026 08:48:12 -0400 2007. Rotax 912 ULS. Kiev prop. Narco AT165/VS Softcomm ATC-2P panel mt intercom. Westach ammeter and voltmeter. C-Lite wing tip detectors. Whelen Nav Assy. Icom IC-A200 panel mt com. Avmap EKP-IV. Dynon EFIS-D100. VG’s by Harrison Design. TT airframe 2,503. 503 hrs since factory new 912 ULS. Recent Annual 8-3-2026. Very well maintained.

]]> 0 ee6df206e1bdd874dc4d30ce122a3dcf Phil joined the group Tailwheel Pilots Association https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7570/ Sun, 27 Sep 2026 04:38:14 -0400 0 8de9c4a708c359c08b9b7076cb3a65e6 Sean Toolson joined the group Tailwheel Pilots Association https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7567/ Sat, 26 Sep 2026 03:16:31 -0400 0 3c9026056b56ba6db79a04547f7992b7 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 2008 American Legend Cub AL-3. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7565/ Sat, 26 Sep 2026 00:36:48 -0400 2008 American Legend Cub AL-3 factory-built Light Sport aircraft with approximately 420 hours total time, powered by a Continental O-200 engine. Equipped with a Sensenich composite propeller, Garmin avionics, ADS-B In/Out, full electrical system, and two 11-gallon wing tanks. The aircraft features metal wing spars, synthetic fabric covering, and…Read more

]]> 0 30586422d2b6d183d528a67e0203cb56 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 2015 RANS S-7 Courier. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7564/ Fri, 25 Sep 2026 15:45:28 -0400 2015 RANS S-7 Courier with only 90 hours total time, powered by a 100 HP Rotax 912 ULS with 90 hours since new and a three-blade Warp Drive composite propeller with 90 hours since new. Equipped with a Dynon SkyView touchscreen EFIS, two-axis autopilot, ADS-B In/Out, dual COM capability, Vortex Generators, and a 550-lb useful load. The aircraft was…Read more

]]> 0 e10c10aebdf7ae2f9bb6d211f75fbeea Rick posted a new Ad Skybolt: Steen Aerolab's Yellowbird. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7563/ Fri, 25 Sep 2026 01:29:36 -0400 Skybolt built by Hale Wallace. 670 hrs TT, Barret Performance AEIO-540 engine with 9.5:1 pistons, cold air induction, AFP fuel injection 300+HP, Smoke system, Four blade MT prop with 2025 overhaul, Electronic Intl CGR-60P engine monitor, new engine mount rubber, bungee cords with safety cables, new battery 2025. Strong parachute included.…Read more

]]> 0 148f5d98ea7e6b3c2bd114b0483f9e55 Rick posted a new Ad 2021 Sonex Xenos Motorglider. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7562/ Fri, 25 Sep 2026 01:26:55 -0400 Sonex Xenos Touring Motorglider 170 hrs TT CAMit 3300 six cyl. engine 127 hp, gives >1400 FPM climb and can exceed Vne at full power Straight & Level. Economy cruise 100 kts at 3.5 GPH, Soar in thermals >5 FPS, Many safety features such as solid flush riveting, AN hardware fuel system, dual electrical systems, sealed baggage compartment, etc. All…Read more

]]> 0 8d7bc0df8e31e22e7ebc3be4bb9af704 Rick joined the group Tailwheel Pilots Association https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7560/ Thu, 24 Sep 2026 23:54:16 -0400 0 da4d8d7154f5b79d179d62e62bbd6a8a Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 2003 Van’s RV-6. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7558/ Thu, 24 Sep 2026 22:11:16 -0400 2003 Van’s RV-6 with 889 hours total time, powered by a Lycoming O-320-E3D with E-MAG electronic ignition and an Aymar-Demuth fixed-pitch wood propeller. The IFR-equipped panel includes a Garmin GNS 430, Sandel SN3308 navigation display, Garmin GPSMAP 496, and coupled TruTrak/DigiFlight II autopilot with altitude hold and vertical guidance. Seller…Read more

]]> 0 4ffbfca00f31efb8f5362509eddf46b2 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 1951 North American AT-6G. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7557/ Thu, 24 Sep 2026 21:43:16 -0400 1951 North American AT-6G with approximately 13,030 hours total time, powered by a 600 HP Pratt & Whitney R-1340 with 433 hours SMOH and 314 hours since an extensive Covington Engines IRAN. The Hamilton Standard 12D40-12 propeller has 271 hours since overhaul and 55 hours since a 2024 IRAN. Equipped with Garmin GNS 430W WAAS navigation, ADS-B Out,…Read more

]]> 0 166e1dd56be065475e7ca4bf2f0c394c Kevin B joined the group Tailwheel Pilots Association https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7555/ Thu, 24 Sep 2026 15:40:26 -0400 0 82575dbf4575e8efcc73ad54f72af485 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 2002 Maule M-7-235C. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7553/ Thu, 24 Sep 2026 09:33:09 -0400 2002 Maule M-7-235C powered by a Lycoming IO-540-W1A5 with 1,467.5 hours and equipped with an MT three-blade propeller. The IFR-equipped panel includes a Garmin GNS 530W, GTX 345 ADS-B transponder, SL30 NAV/COM, S-TEC 30 autopilot with GPSS, and JPI engine instrumentation. Additional equipment includes float provisions, Vortex Generators,…Read more

]]> 0 30c7f78bca91f9d175e2024aa0561e79 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 2011 Aviat Husky A-1C-180. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7552/ Wed, 23 Sep 2026 22:34:40 -0400 2011 Aviat Husky A-1C-180 with only 180 hours total time, powered by a 180 HP Lycoming O-360-A1P with 180 hours since new. Equipped with a 76-inch Hartzell constant-speed propeller, Garmin GNS 430W, EI MVP-50 engine monitor, 50 gallons usable fuel, 8.50 tires, and factory float provisions. One-owner aircraft with complete logs, a May 2026 annual…Read more

]]> 0 44f176a0438d66ddb608f5b4200024e5 Kent joined the group Tailwheel Pilots Association https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7550/ Wed, 23 Sep 2026 21:15:07 -0400 0 174daf629396c084834fa97909ba3dd0 Opie joined the group Tailwheel Pilots Association https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7547/ Wed, 23 Sep 2026 17:46:29 -0400 0 4a0826dba0aa6f5c78451e453d00bbcf Nic Featherston joined the group Tailwheel Pilots Association https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7544/ Wed, 23 Sep 2026 15:12:29 -0400 0 a50ff653a2b1f56497ff480cd48b64b8 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad Aeronca 7AC Champion. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7542/ Wed, 23 Sep 2026 11:04:11 -0400 Aeronca 7AC Champion with 6,297 hours total time, upgraded with a 100 HP Continental O-200 engine under STC. The engine has 375 hours SMOH and features electric start, while additional modifications include left and right auxiliary wing tanks for 24 gallons total fuel capacity. Equipped with a Garmin SL40 COM, King KT76 transponder, intercom,…Read more

]]> 0 ae72a7f808690050f4ab6522dbdfd560 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 2015 CubCrafters Carbon Cub SS. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7541/ Wed, 23 Sep 2026 11:04:10 -0400 2015 CubCrafters Carbon Cub SS with 370 hours total time, powered by a 180 HP Lycoming Titan CC340 with 370 hours since new. Equipped with a Catto 80/50 carbon-composite propeller, Garmin G3X glass panel, GFC 500 autopilot, ADS-B In/Out, and an extensive backcountry equipment package. Features include extended PA-18-style landing gear, Alpha Omega…Read more

]]> 0 68a86ce5373fb0a0d215770867512c04 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 2010 Van’s RV-8. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7540/ Wed, 23 Sep 2026 11:04:09 -0400 2010 Van’s RV-8 with 1,020 hours total time, powered by a fuel-injected 200 HP Lycoming IO-360-B1A and equipped with a Hartzell constant-speed propeller. The IFR-equipped panel includes a Dynon FlightDEK-D180, Garmin GNS 430W, Garmin 696, and additional navigation and communications equipment. A minor prop strike occurred at 131 hours in 2012,…Read more

]]> 0 d9fa0036344a7b9c0b1b2848fdb5d07e Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 2014 WACO YMF-5. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7539/ Wed, 23 Sep 2026 10:46:16 -0400 2014 WACO YMF-5 with 730 hours total time, powered by a 300 HP Jacobs R-755-A2M radial engine with 730 hours since new. Equipped with an MT fixed-pitch propeller, long-range fuel tanks, and a Garmin avionics suite including GTN 750 and GTN 635 navigators. The aircraft features front-cockpit instrumentation, brown leather seating, and a…Read more

]]> 0 d821bba55da4f88b796a1631d727c033 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 1947 Cessna 140. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7538/ Wed, 23 Sep 2026 10:45:54 -0400 1947 Cessna 140 with 2,950 hours total time, powered by a Continental C85-12F with 1,055.1 hours SMOH. The McCauley propeller has 235.5 hours since overhaul, and the aircraft is equipped with Cleveland wheels and brakes, Superflite fabric covering, and a Cessna 150 exhaust system. Avionics include a Bendix/King KLX 153A and KT 76A transponder. •…Read more

]]> 0 00706d7275411b5192bf2de15a4d8af9 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 1999 Maule M-7-235C. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7537/ Wed, 23 Sep 2026 10:35:54 -0400 1999 Maule M-7-235C with 1,270 hours total time, powered by a 235 HP-class Lycoming IO-540-W1A5 with 1,270 hours since new. Following a prop strike at 1,129.8 hours, the engine received an IRAN inspection, and the aircraft now has an MT three-blade propeller with 140 hours since overhaul. Equipped with 29-inch Alaskan Bushwheels, Garmin G5, ADS-B,…Read more

]]> 0 2d04bac3d30a4e57ede914e937a6a209 Jake Levine joined the group Tailwheel Pilots Association https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7535/ Wed, 23 Sep 2026 03:44:11 -0400 0 85bc93992f664adbce546be47a824e54 John (CFIAIME) added a photo https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7533/ Tue, 22 Sep 2026 22:00:25 -0400 ]]> 0 80935c687ddc257c35777b64f40ba6ae Travis posted a new Ad 1941 Piper Cub. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7532/ Mon, 21 Sep 2026 21:51:43 -0400 1941 J3 cub with A-75 motor. 687 SMOH. TT on airframe 5512. Dual wing tanks, sealed struts, stc for gross weight increase, Cleveland brakes. No electric system. Asking $39,000. Located Seymour IN.

]]> 0 2d665afcb68e3df00e80d0e606fe4851 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 1953 Cessna 190. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7531/ Mon, 21 Sep 2026 21:06:55 -0400 1953 Cessna 190 with 5,403 hours total time and a Continental W670-23 radial engine with 494 hours SMOH. The engine was overhauled by Radial Engines of Guthrie, Oklahoma, in October 1998, and the aircraft is equipped with an automotive-fuel STC. Features include a polished exterior, Barron aileron hinge brackets, King KX-170B NAV/COM, and uAvionix…Read more

]]> 0 7645cde57d7ea5b05550971be9d3ef41 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 1955 Piper PA-18 Super Cub. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7530/ Mon, 21 Sep 2026 21:00:51 -0400 1955 Piper PA-18 Super Cub extensively rebuilt in 2013 by Northern Airframes, with an engine overhaul completed in October 2025 and a new propeller installed in 2024. Equipped for backcountry operations with 31-inch Alaskan Bushwheel tires, Alpha Omega landing gear, Vortex Generators, and extended-range fuel. Avionics include a Garmin GPSMAP 496,…Read more

]]> 0 1d8dd11e5d16975c07d312747546ec22 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 2020 Just Aircraft SuperSTOL XL. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7529/ Mon, 21 Sep 2026 20:55:35 -0400 2020 Just Aircraft SuperSTOL XL with approximately 230 hours total time, powered by a 195 HP Continental Titan X370 CC engine. Equipped for backcountry operations with 31-inch Alaskan Bushwheels, TK1 suspension, Beringer wheels and brakes, Pekola tailwheel with T1 shock, and Vortex Generators. The panel features a Garmin G3X Touch system with…Read more

]]> 0 4374e96201cfd5615df026e1ee9a4df8 Tailwheelz Master added a photo https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7528/ Mon, 21 Sep 2026 20:10:56 -0400 ]]> 0 13b4e02fcbc1ad3a77dab8c86573272e Skywagons.com posted a new Ad 1946 Piper PA-12 Super Cruiser. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7527/ Sun, 20 Sep 2026 12:47:48 -0400 1946 Piper PA-12 Super Cruiser with 5,649 hours total time, extensively rebuilt in 2026 around a new Dakota Cub fuselage with numerous PA-18 and backcountry modifications. Powered by a 150 HP Lycoming O-320 with 402 hours since new and equipped with a McCauley 8142 propeller. The rebuild included new covering, overhauled wings with new spars, new…Read more

]]> 0 a9ed23569cf49eaf1272efcb088435df Skywagons.com posted a new Ad 1947 Cessna 140. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7526/ Sun, 20 Sep 2026 12:42:00 -0400 1947 Cessna 140 with 3,605 hours total time and a 135 HP Lycoming O-290-D2 with 1,172 hours SMOH. Equipped with 8.50×6 tires, Cleveland wheels and brakes, a Scott 3200 tailwheel, 25-gallon fuel capacity, ADS-B In/Out, and a King KX170B NAV/COM. The aircraft has complete logbooks and an annual inspection current through July 2027. Registration:…Read more

]]> 0 214a35acd420ddba6a25795fec94da63 Skywagons.com posted a new Ad 1967 Cessna 180 Skywagon. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7525/ Sun, 20 Sep 2026 12:36:05 -0400 1967 Cessna 180 Skywagon with 5,577 hours total time and a 275 HP P-Ponk O-470-50 with only 51 hours SMOH. Extensively equipped for backcountry and seaplane operations with a 3,190-pound gross-weight increase, Sportsman STOL kit, Vortex Generators, 84-gallon fuel system, factory float and ski provisions, and an IFR-equipped panel with dual Dynon…Read more

]]> 0 51dbc53ab9601445199e155966f9116e Donna Cann joined the group Tailwheel Pilots Association https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7524/ Sat, 19 Sep 2026 23:43:46 -0400 0 cecca01d4fa0d1dc1b98a13d7b802c67 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 1980 Bellanca Super Decathlon. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7522/ Sat, 19 Sep 2026 21:05:55 -0400 1980 Bellanca Super Decathlon with 2,135 hours total time and a Lycoming AEIO-360-H1A with 579 hours SMOH. Equipped for aerobatics with inverted fuel and oil systems, five-point harnesses, and wood-spar wings that the seller reports are in good condition. Avionics include a King KX-155 NAV/COM, Narco transponder, and uAvionix SkyBeacon ADS-B Out.…Read more

]]> 0 9cbcd079e87ae3239d1febcf67785ea2 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 1980 Pitts S-2A. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7521/ Sat, 19 Sep 2026 21:05:54 -0400 1980 Pitts S-2A with 1,958 hours total time and 1,212 hours SMOH. This aircraft wears its Carling Red Cap Team paint scheme and can be operated with either the enclosed canopy or open-cockpit configuration. Equipped with a smoke system, Garmin SL40 COM, King KT76A transponder, PM1200 intercom, and Hooker harnesses. • Registration: N31482 • Total…Read more

]]> 0 a01d6eddde5f70352d7b087fde292c02 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 2012 Van’s RV-7. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7520/ Sat, 19 Sep 2026 21:05:53 -0400 2012 Van’s RV-7 with only 225 hours total time, powered by a fuel-injected Superior XP IO-360 and Hartzell constant-speed propeller. The panel features dual 7-inch Garmin G3X displays, a Garmin GX Pilot three-axis autopilot, GTX 327 transponder, ADS-B Out, and electronic engine monitoring. The aircraft is currently VFR-equipped, has complete…Read more

]]> 0 98de2b29fce3785b5da06dbc3c406033 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 2007 American Legend AL11J-120. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7519/ Sat, 19 Sep 2026 17:53:04 -0400 2007 American Legend AL11J-120 with only 155 hours total time. Powered by a 120 HP Jabiru 3300A with 155 hours since new and a two-blade Sensenich propeller with matching time. The aircraft is VFR-equipped with conventional flight instruments, Microair avionics, ADS-B, and provisions for a seaplane configuration. • Registration: N246RM • Serial…Read more

]]> 0 61c0f799e1d83af3b2c5fde5ae62f8c4 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 2014 CubCrafters Carbon Cub SS. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7518/ Sat, 19 Sep 2026 17:46:40 -0400 2014 CubCrafters Carbon Cub SS with 1,185 hours total time and a 180 HP Lycoming Titan CC340 with 370 hours since new. Equipped with Garmin G3X glass avionics, GFC 500 autopilot, ADS-B, 29-inch Airstreak tires, Acme Aero suspension, and extended baggage. The aircraft has a 960-pound basic empty weight and received its most recent condition…Read more

]]> 0 3c21632f72aa6b276f054617c6c33a3c Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 1946 Aeronca 7AC Champion. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7517/ Sat, 19 Sep 2026 17:39:47 -0400 1946 Aeronca 7AC Champion powered by a 65 HP, hand-propped engine. The aircraft has been hangared and maintained, with a rebuilt carburetor and an annual inspection completed in February 2026. Engine logbooks are available from the seller. • Registration: N1044E • 65 HP engine • Hand-prop starting • Carburetor rebuilt • Annual inspection completed…Read more

]]> 0 a03d3e444b2e424431f933343374f8b1 Jason joined the group Tailwheel Pilots Association https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7515/ Sat, 19 Sep 2026 13:24:30 -0400 0 411f3b6284ef631fe0454d12fbc547c5 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 1949 Piper PA-16 Clipper. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7513/ Sat, 19 Sep 2026 11:23:28 -0400 1949 Piper PA-16 Clipper with 2,443 hours total time and only 73 hours SMOH on its Lycoming O-235-C1B engine. The aircraft underwent a complete reassembly in 2024 and received new fabric using the Stewart Systems process, along with a new vertical fin and new 4130-steel rudder. Hangared in Astoria, Oregon, with a May 2026 annual inspection and…Read more

]]> 0 55fcc59364095f32fe6fb7ccebce7d60 Taildraggers.com posted a new Ad 1947 Cessna 190. https://taildraggers.com/activity/p/7512/ Sat, 19 Sep 2026 11:14:34 -0400 1947 Cessna 190 with 3,479 hours total time, 495 hours SMOH, and a reported 1,200-pound useful load. The panel has been updated with dual uAvionix AV-30-C displays, a Garmin Aera 660, Stratus 3, and CGR-30 engine monitor. Additional upgrades include a JASCO alternator, CiES fuel senders, LED landing lights, and a new Concorde battery. •…Read more

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